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Topic: Lowrider Moths
Posted By: H2
Subject: Lowrider Moths
Date Posted: 17 Dec 18 at 12:52pm
Its the final straight to Christmas so am looking for ways to avoid actually working! Whats a lowrider moth really like to sail? Have always thought that having one would be occasional fun rather than my boat to use each weekend to race in. Looks like a challenge but would be interested to hear from those that have sailed them what they are really like.

NB: I have zero interest in flying so please do not try and sell me foiling. Ta!


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H2 #115



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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 17 Dec 18 at 2:08pm
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/108520-lowrider-moth-fast-fun-and-fogiving-not-to-sail/" rel="nofollow - http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/108520-lowrider-moth-fast-fun-and-fogiving-not-to-sail/

Most relevant comment "Hard to sail ! but a good challenge for the determined, not a 'part time' prospect"


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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 17 Dec 18 at 8:27pm
Its a bit of a piece of string question since lowrider Moth includes everything from a Europe through arguably the most difficult boats to sail ever constructed. If you have steer-for-balance dialed in its probably not too hard, but if you're still sailing the old school way luffing in gusts then you'll suffer.


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 17 Dec 18 at 9:19pm
True but I was assuming H2 was referring to a later design rather than something more 'normal' Smile

I sailed a very old Europe a couple of years ago, I'm top end of the weight range at 76kg but it was a delightful boat.


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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 21 Dec 18 at 11:17pm
Sam - Iím currently on Op Deny Calories in order to get in my newly purchased Europe in the spring - Iíve wanted one since I was a skinny teen, but in recent years have been firmly in Finn territory.....

Interestingly, the 76kg you were (I donít know when that was) is now by no means top-end in the Europe these days. 2014 World Champion was 84kg and 6th place was 80kg. I guess modern carbon sticks have widened the weight carrying envelope.
The 2014 Champ, Lars, also won it in 2015 and was runner-up in Ď16, Ď17 and Ď18, so it wasnít a one-off windy event. he was 2017 OK European Champ and also competes in the Finn😎

At a current 87kg and dropping (down from 97kg this summer) I canít wait to get out in the little boat.

For heavenís sake, nobody tell Grumph about the Europe! 😜🤣

http://www.europeclass.org/ideal-weight---height.html" rel="nofollow - Europe Sailor Weights

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Finn GBR88 Gruffalo, Europe 185, Europe 252 Fizzer
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 22 Dec 18 at 7:38am
I loved my Europe, but discovered I leave my elbows in the air when gybing. Very painful lumps developed, and I never could remember to keep them down, so in the end swapped classes.

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Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446


Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 22 Dec 18 at 11:19am
I did that once while performing a 720 in my Finn - NEVER AGAIN!!!   Arm was completely useless for about 3 days!🤣

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Finn GBR88 Gruffalo, Europe 185, Europe 252 Fizzer
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cameron-Tweedle-Sailing/816713278339694" rel="nofollow - Cameron Tweedle Sailing (Facebook)


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 22 Dec 18 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by Bootscooter


For heavenís sake, nobody tell Grumph about the Europe! 😜🤣



He already spotted it, learned more in one beat following a girl who really knew how to sail it whilst banging every shift than all the years previously buggering about on the sea.

But Grumph's a Trapezing sailor now and his next mission is to learn how to foil having just landed the agency for kite and windsurfings leading foil maker..Moses.

Onwards and Upwards.

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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 22 Dec 18 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by Bootscooter

I did that once while performing a 720 in my Finn - NEVER AGAIN!!!   Arm was completely useless for about 3 days!🤣

Gary Hoyt wrote a great piece about gybing a Finn in his book ĎGoing for Goldí. 


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Nick
https://www.fireballsailing.org.uk/index.asp?selection=boat-register&subsel=14821" rel="nofollow - GBR 14821 Sijambo




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